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Gender identification: not as simple as it seems

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Perhaps you’ve heard of the world-class South African runner Caster Semenva (on the right in photo).  Last week, she won the gold medal in the women’s 800 meters at the world championship games in Berlin.   And then, someone—no one’s saying who—challenged her victory on the basis of gender.  In other words, “She’s not a woman, he’s a man.”

Now to we non-scientists, this seems like a simple question.  Turns out it’s difficult (not to mention humiliating for an 18 year old girl).  From the New York Times:

It requires a physical medical evaluation, and includes reports from a gynecologist, an endocrinologist, a psychologist, an internal medicine specialist and an expert on gender. The effort, coordinated by Dr. Harold Adams, a South African on the I.A.A.F. medical panel, is being conducted at hospitals in Berlin and South Africa.

Why all the fuss?  Either she is or she isn’t, right? Read on:

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To be fair, the biology of sex is a lot more complicated than the average fan believes […] f the person has XY chromosomes, you declare him a man. If XX, she’s a woman. Right?
Wrong. A little biology: On the Y chromosome, a gene called SRY usually makes a fetus grow as a male. It turns out, though, that SRY can show up on an X, turning an XX fetus essentially male. And if the SRY gene does not work on the Y, the fetus develops essentially female.[…] Even an XY fetus with a functioning SRY can essentially develop female […]
In the case of Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome […] the genitals and the rest of the external body look female-typical, except that these women lack body hair […]
Moreover, a person can look male-typical on the outside but be female-typical on the inside, or vice versa […]
Matthew, a 19-year-old who was born looking obviously male, was raised a boy, and had a girlfriend and a male-typical life. Then he found out […] that he had ovaries and a uterus […] he had XX chromosomes […] his body developed[…] male-typical […]
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In the end, it’s a judgment call.

Which brings to mind the subject of sexual orientation (though, far as I know, it’s not a question Semenva has raised). Many of my good friends are convinced that gay men and lesbian women should remain celibate, for (they say) homosexual sex is “un-natural.”

But if an individual has both male and female characteristics, with which gender, my friends,  is he or she to be prohibited from marriage? What is natural?

Even more, what dozens of unknown psychological aspects of sexual identity and behavior might this combined physical identity bring about?  What aspects of it might never appear physically but influence sexual preference?

So I wonder.  How can we, who understand all this so very little, legitimately insist upon legal or theological control over the sexual destiny of people who are personally—perhaps even unknowingly—involved in these mysteries?  If scientists can’t conclusively say whether an athlete should race as a male or a female, how could we amateur theologians possibly know enough to judge who should be attracted to whom?

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  1. Really?? Wow Mr. Asbury — you really are leaning a little left there. I’m speechless.

    It’s those who KNOW the truth and choose to ignore it that frustrate me most. I’m just reading about GRACE — I realize I give the least amount of grace to those who KNOW better, yet their behavior doesn’t change.

    This frustrates me about the Nazarene church. How in the world do they let you be a Nazarene preacher when you SO OBVIOUSLY do not believe in their doctrine?? Why are they not confronting you on your opinions? And Why do YOU want to be a Nazarene? Am I missing something?

    You KNOW God’s word is infallible, you know the truth Mr. Asbury.


    October 1, 2009 at 8:15 am

    • Thanks for your comment, Jennifer. May I suggest you read the paper of one of Nazarene Theological Seminary’s most conservative theologians, the late Dr. Kenneth Grider, at Homosexuality – a theologically conservative and inclusive view?

      Another – and more brief – post, A caution light on Bible vs. homosexuality outlines my views pretty well. You may find it a bit different than you expect. This is not about abandoning the Bible at all. The point is to advocate humility, and to encourage people to be sure they really do, indeed, understand the depth of what the Bible says and avoids saying on this subject, rather than basing their views on a quick and superficial reading of six short passages. It is not easy.

      Perhaps you’ll find me somewhat less than heretical after reading them. I’d be honored, though, to share the label with Dr. Grider, if need be!

      Best wishes,

      Monte Asbury

      October 1, 2009 at 9:10 pm

  2. well said. I think that there is a sort of certainty out there that is bread of ignorance, and that the more you know, the more you’re humbled by how much you probably still don’t know, and start to wonder who you are to judge.

    Joe Hayes

    August 22, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    • Thanks, Joe – I think that’s the essence of humility.


      August 22, 2009 at 11:03 pm

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